Episode 011 – Salem City Schools, VA Interview with Dr. Alan Seibert and Alayna Johnson

Episode 11 takes us to Salem City Schools in Virgina and a conversation with superintendent, Dr. Alan Seibert and learner, Alayna Johnson. We talked about the complexities of bringing a learner-centered mindset to a system at scale, how internships and externships break down the walls of learning, and how learner-centered environments put less focus on grades and fixed response assessments and more focus on learning.

Salem City is located near Roanoke, Virginia, approximately four hours southwest of Washington D.C. Salem City Schools serve 4000 students in six schools (4 elementary, 1 middle, and 1 comprehensive high school featuring both career and technical programs and an International Baccalaureate program). Alan has served in Salem City Schools for 26 years in several capacities: a high school science teacher, assistant principal in the middle and high schools and principal in an elementary school. He is in his 11th year as superintendent of Salem City Schools. Alayna Johnson is a Junior in the Early Childhood Education (ECE) program at Salem High School. She aspires to be a teacher and perhaps an elementary school principal as part of her current career goals. Alayna recently shadowed Dr. Seibert for a day as she investigates and prepares for her future career plans.

Our conversation with Alan and Alayna inspired us to think about the following questions:

  1. What barriers are you experiencing moving from school-centered to learner-centered? What have you heard today that can help you address these challenges?
  2. In what ways can learner-centered leadership honor the complexities of the education profession?

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Learner-centered leaders effectively engage community

In Episode 10, we had a conversation with Mesa County School District 51 superintendent, Steve Schultz. We discussed engaging community to design the “what” and “why” of system transformation, the importance of providing the space and time for community to shift mindsets, and the value of “walking the talk.”

Key Competency

The idea of community ran as a thread through the conversation. Steve includes what we would traditionally call “stakeholders” in the community – students, teachers, leaders, board members and community representatives such as newspaper reporters and Chamber of Commerce leaders. Learner-centered leaders leading a system transformation, effectively engage community. In Mesa’s work over the past 18 months, community has been engaged to develop a model of proficiency-based learning that best serves the unique context and needs of Mesa County.

Key Takeaways

Mesa County was strategic in how it engaged community. Board members were engaged in the question, “What does personalized learning look like?”

Community members visited model programs around the country. After being inspired by what they saw, Mesa County community members engaged in conversations about what it could look like in their own unique context. In a large system of 22,000 students, buildings have been given autonomy in terms of implementation and time.

Mesa County listens to the community to inform the change. This can be a challenge because everyone is an “expert” in the system by having merely processed through it. Encouraging others to suspend previous opinion about what school school be can be a challenge.

Transformation takes time and close attention to pacing. It cannot be forced. Leaders need to provide the time for community to struggle through the shifts in mindset required. Not everyone understands the detail, but people are asking constructive questions. The transformation is growing throughout the system through engagement and transparency.

Implementation of the vision is through demonstration schools across the system. Mesa County is hiring people with experience in the work and creating the infrastructure of tools necessary.  Mesa County has had to push back on aspects of the traditional system: organization of central office (learning to be a more agile and responsive organization). High school has been the most challenging. Grade levels will not be abandoned until the system is ready.

Although the demonstration schools are implementing specific components of the vision (piloting a LMS, etc), all stakeholders across the organization (and even community organizations) are focused on development and growth mindset through this process.

Leaders need to shift their practice: practice what you preach; realize there are many ways transformation can happen – be open to listening to others; developing partnerships in the community is necessary and a long-term investment; transformation requires courage.

Connections to Practice

We followed a similar process of developing a shared vision. We engaged multiple sets of stakeholders and are now working to shift mindsets as we implement the transformation. We have also realized that this takes time. We had hoped to spend 2016-17 building a common understanding of language, but now realize this was not enough time to engage everyone and to build the understanding.

We have begun to identify areas of the system that need to be challenged: grades at some levels, agency as ownership, and use of time. Additionally, we understand we need to enroll our stakeholders in conversations about what is possible, and why we need to shift our thinking.

Questions Based on Our Context

  • How does what we have learned in the Pioneer Lab help us manage those of a dissimilar mindset?
  • How can we look at community differently? What can we do when engagement and commitment is low?
  • How do we help our board understand the distinctions of personalized learning?
  • What are the behaviors/competencies we need to articulate for each grade span/level? When is appropriate to begin this work?
  • What structures of “school” will we need to re-evaluate and change for better implementation? Are there areas that need support but don’t currently have enough?
  • As leaders, what personal areas of development can we focus on to fuel the transformation?

Next Steps for Us

  • Help our leaders, teachers, board members and students understand the processes shared in the Pioneer Lab to engage community.
  • Make engaging students in the conversation around transformation a greater priority this school year.
  • Engage in conversations around behaviors/competencies for teachers, leaders and learners.

Episode 010 – Mesa County School District 51 Interview with Steve Schultz

Episode 10 takes us to the Mesa County School District 51 in Colorado and a conversation with superintendent, Steve Schultz, about the district’s work on performance-based learning. Among other things, we learn how Mesa County is engaging community to design the “what” and “why” of system transformation, the importance of providing the space and time for community to shift mindsets, and the value of “walking the talk.”

Steve began working in District 51 in 1982 as a teacher at Columbus Elementary School. He served as a principal, administrator and assistant superintendent before being appointed Superintendent in 2009. He retired in June 2017 after 35 years of service to Mesa County Schools.

Our conversation with Steve inspired us to think about the following questions:

  1. What happens when everyone’s a learner and a leader in the organization?
  2. What mechanisms of compliance can your organization let go of to move toward a more learner-centered learning environment?

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Learner-centered leaders have an audacious, future-focused vision

In Episode 9, we had a conversation about developing a positive student-centered learning environment with Dr. Cederick Ellis, Superintendent in the McComb School District in McComb, MS.

Key Competency

McComb School District “empowers students to change the world.”  Most of all , leaders in a learner-centered environment need to set an audacious vision. To work towards that vision, the leader needs to be invested, have a future-focused mindset for building something that cannot be seen at the moment, and plenty of patience.  Relationships with other leaders, teachers, students, and parents are critical in this journey. Learner-centered leaders need to rely on others and build passionate people around them to ensure everyone is on board for the journey to a learner-centered environment together.

Key Takeaways

McComb school district has an audacious vision and mission. The mission of the McComb School District is to become a premier, world-class school system where student success is inevitable and each student is cultivated to become a fierce competitor in a global society.

Learning spaces matter. Classrooms have been transformed into learning laboratories, and traditional grade levels have been eliminated. Each student has a personal learning plan. The teaching and learning environment also looks different. McComb has dynamic furniture so learners can feel comfortable and ready to learn where it is most appropriate. All students have a mobile device which is utilized to enhance instructional delivery.

What does a learner-centered environment look like at McCombs?  Student-centered teaching and learning is centered on 6 pillars. Students are grouped by readiness, assume ownership for their own learning, work at their own pace, show evidence of mastery, receive continuous feedback. In this model, teachers serve as teacher practitioners.

McComb knew the model they had was not working for students. The collective community wanted to personalize learning for every learner so that learning was more meaningful and authentic.

Learner-centered education affords McComb learners possibilities. Learners, or scholars as McComb calls them, can have more authentic opportunities to show what they know in various formats. Educators can provide importance to the students’ cognitive and non-cognitive for human behaviors. The scholars can develop an interest and motivation to learn.  This is more than differentiated instruction or blended learning. Learner-centered education also provides equity across the system – they system truly meeting the specific needs of all learners.

When transitioning to this learner-centered environment, the leadership has had to reflect and rethink some of its practices. Principals, or lead learners as McComb calls them, need to rethink how they allocate resources. The team has had to rethink how to administer professional development. Central office has needed to rethink how it serves the lead learners. That means the superintendent needs to meet with lead learners more and listen. All leaders need to reflect on what has been done and modify as needed.

Connections to Practice

Learners need to feel comfortable and safe in their learning environments. Some of our teachers have requested additional furniture to provide learners with some options. For example, some teachers requested standing desks. Our middle school staff spent a year researching and piloting a flexible learning space in order to better meet instructional needs.

We need to provide learners with opportunities for choice and voice, not only in what they learn, but how they learn it, and how they demonstrate their learning.

We have been thinking about developing our own lexicon.  McComb was very intentional about its vocabulary. The community is a community of learners. Teachers are teacher practitioners, and classrooms are learning labs. Using this vocabulary is important because it more accurately reflects the work and encourages people to shift their mindsets. The teacher practitioner needs to diagnose the needs of every scholar, and provide the proper prescription.

Many schools are using software which is designed to personalize learning. When selecting software, we need to be critical about what it does to enhance the teaching and learning. Does it provide for individualization? Does it differentiate for students? Does it personalize?  McComb uses Compass Learning to personalize learning for its scholars.

This process will take time and many iterations. We need to understand we will make mistakes, and we will improve as we move along this journey.  We need to be patient and engage our community in this meaningful process.

Questions Based on Our Context

  • How often do our students have choice in content and/or path for their learning? Choice in showing mastery of learning?
  • How could we group by readiness? Where do we already use that practice?
  • How often do our students receive feedback? What does that feedback look like, sound like, and feel like?
  • Is our system meeting the needs of all of our learners?
  • How do we do a better job supporting our lead learners (principals)?
  • How are we future-focused in describing/communicating our vision?

Next Steps for Us

  • Look at aspects of the organization through the lens of learner agency. And ask the questions outlined above.
  • Intentionally schedule time with learners to talk about the above questions.
  • Talk to principals about the supports they need. Add an agenda item to our monthly principal meetings.
  • Develop our own lexicon.

Episode 009 – McComb School District Interview with Dr. Cederick Ellis

In this episode, we’re having a conversation with Dr. Cederick Ellis, Superintendent in the McComb School District in McComb, MS. We talked about developing an audacious vision, the importance of building relationships and having patience as you make learning personal for students.

Dr. Cederick Ellis has over 25 years of creating and sustaining a positive student-centered learning environment to develop academic proficiency and strength of character. He is a highly motivated, dedicated, results-oriented and innovative educator. Prior to his current position, he served as superintendent, director of schools, principal and teacher. Cederick was recently one of three Mississippians to receive the National School Leadership Coach credential from the National Institute for School Leaders (NISL). Cederick was recognized by the National Association of School Superintendents as the 2015 Superintendent of the Year Runner-Up. His primary goal is to develop a “World Class” school district: a school district that constantly strives for excellence in preparing its students to both meet and exceed state and national educational standards. Cederick launched Mississippi’s only student-centered teaching and learning school, focusing on personalizing learning for every student.  

Cederick and his work in McComb will inspire you to reflect on these questions:

  1. What is your audacious vision for learning in your organization?
  2. What terminology will you change as you embark on your transformation?

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