Bonus Episode 07 – Interview with Julie Wilson on the Human Side of Changing Education

In this Shift Your Paradigm Bonus Episode, we are speaking with Julie Wilson, author of The Human Side of Changing Education: How to Lead Change with Clarity, Conviction and Courage.

Julie coaches leaders who lead change. She graduated from the Harvard Graduate School of Education with a master’s degree in technology, innovation, and education, and a bachelor’s of arts in business administration and French from Queens University in Belfast, Northern Ireland. She has over fifteen years’ experience building effective learning environments that unlock human potential and enable organizational culture to adapt and grow during times of change.

We discussed the following:

  1. Let’s start the conversation with a personal story about how you got connected to this work – leadership, school change and the human-centered approach.
  2. The Human Side of Changing Education is centered on the premise that when we ask schools to change, we are asking human beings to change and this requires special tools and a human-centered approach. Help us understand what you mean by this.
  3. What are some of the special tools available to leaders as we embark on change?
  4. Why is it important to embrace a human-centered approach as we work towards change in our schools and districts?
  5. On your website you have some additional resources such as the Roadmap for Change, the book’s companion guide, “Your Hero’s Journey,” and an organizational change capacity questionnaire. How can these resources be used to support this work?
  6. What are the most common pitfalls leaders face when leading change – especially when leading post-industrial change?
  7. Before we invite you to share what is next for you, let’s hear your ideas about our lightning response questions
    • Who is one expert our listener’s should connect with to learn more about school change?
    • If you were recommending one book to our listeners, what would it be?
    • What online site/resource/person do you learn from regularly?

Exploring Additional Resources

Learner-centered leaders create the space for trying new and different.

In Episode 38, we spoke to Dr. Toni Hull, principal at Mesilla Valley Leadership Academy (MVLA), an innovative middle school in the Las Cruces Public Schools in New Mexico. MVLA has a unique project-based learning approach which allows students to produce real-world products and presentations that demonstrate their knowledge and proficiency in any given subject. Each project is based on a monthly theme which is developed by teachers and school leaders.

Key Competency

Learner-centered leaders create the space for trying new and different. This involves both learners and adults. Once that space is created, time needs to be set aside for conversation and reflection – what worked, what didn’t work.

Takeaways

  • MVLA was started to fill a need. Middle school learners were in need of a learning environment that starts with the learner. Students are the drivers of their own learning. Upon developing MVLA, the district wanted to focus on project-based learning.
  • An example of how MVLA starts with the learner is that students focus on developing competencies. Unlike our traditional system, students are not tracked by grade. For example, an 6th grader may be working on 8th grade math, or vice versa.
  • Another example of a learner-centered approach is the valuing of students’ ideas. When students come to the adults with an idea, the answer is never, “No.” Instead, the response is, “Hmm, let me think about that. Let’s figure that out. How can we do that?” Students are then enlisted to help solve the problem they just surfaced. Learner-centered leaders create the space for trying new things and engage learners along the way.
  • While MVLA is a public school and has to meet certain standards, the how is in the individual learning plans, not in a textbook or pacing guide.
  • MVLA connects learners to their passions through My Time, a period of time every day where learners can set goals and dive in to an area of personal interest. Learners can pursue a different area each month.  Over the course of their educational career, learners will have pursued many passions, thus providing a rich, middle school exploratory experience.
  • Assessment also looks different in this environment. Because MVLA is a project-based school, paper/pencil tests are uncommon. Most assessments are performance-based.
  • MVLA embraces learner agency. When students have a question, teachers put the question right back to them for a solution. This can initially be a shock as students tend to come from schools where the adults do that work for the students. It can be a bit of culture shock!
  • Learning experiences are also open-walled and socially-embedded at MVLA. Toni talked about the Amazing Shake where community partners are involved with students helping them build soft skills – “…how to handshake, do interviews, do toasts, motivational speeches, pitch your product, do a weather cast…” Learning these experiences in an authentic work environment develops relevance and meaning for the learners.
  • MVLA values the school-home connection and partnership.  They recognize the learners’ parents are their first teachers.
  • Learners at MVLA go through a goal-setting process. This helps individual learners personalize their own learning and identify what is important to them.
  • The day at MVLA takes into consideration the social/emotional learning by offering brain breaks and meditation time at various times throughout the day.
  • Toni shared that learner-centered leaders need to also give their teachers the space to try new things. Engaging in the conversation around what worked and what didn’t work is equally important. “You have to be able to let go, and let it be, let them do their thing.”
  • Learner-centered leaders are strong advocates. Toni is principal in a public school and has to advocate to the district administration for things such as fewer tests. “I have to continually advocate, I have to continually educate.”
  • Learner-centered leaders also have to “market” this work to various audiences – parents, teachers, district administration, etc.  Telling their story is a critical component of their success.

Connections to Practice

  • Our middle school Project Wonder is an example of a learning environment that starts with the learner. How will we extend this to more learners?
  • As we work with our Leading #YourSalisbury teaching and learning transformation all of our teachers are taking risks in redesigning two learning tasks to better reflect our learning beliefs. By developing this professional learning opportunity, we are creating space for the new!
  • Leader in Me Leadership Days help capture the soft skills similar to the Amazing Shake. What other opportunities do we shape for this purpose?
  • We have experienced success in saying “yes” to our learners, and many new clubs and activities have been formed as a result. How have we extended/do we extend those “yes” statements to what is happening in our core program?

Questions Based on Our Practice

  • How often do we say YES to ideas put forth by our learners?
  • How do we engage parents? Do we value them as the “the first teacher”?
  • Are we all involved in “marketing” our work? How do we continue to tell the story of Project Wonder for our stakeholders, beyond information presented in curriculum meetings?

Next Steps for Us

  • Continue the work with Leading #YourSalisbury to encourage risk-taking, support the new ideas, and provide relevant/meaningful feedback.
  • Talk with leaders about our perceptions of creating the space for these new ideas. How often do we say, “no”?
  • Identify additional forums for learners to share ideas.

Bonus Episode 06 – Community Internship Programs as Open-Walled Learning Interview with Jenny Finn, Springhouse Community School

In this Bonus Episode, we are speaking with Jenny Finn, Head of School, and Co-Founder for Springhouse Community School about place-based education, open-walled learning, and an internship program at Springhouse Community School. Here is what we discussed:

  1. Let’s start the conversation with a personal story about how you got connected to place-based and open-walled education.
  2. Tell us a little about Springhouse so our listeners learn more about your learning environment.
  3. As the Springhouse model evolved, how and why did you determine the need for a community internship program.
  4. What do you and your learners view as the value of the internship program for your school community and beyond?
  5. Sometimes we hear it is difficult to place learners with internship experiences. How do you support a learner who comes to you with an interest but you aren’t sure there is someone in your community who could provide an experience based on that interest?
  6. Before we invite you to share what is next for you, let’s hear your ideas about our lightning response questions:
    1. Who is one expert our listener’s should connect with to learn more about these internships, place-based and open-walled education?
    2. If you were recommending one book to our listeners, what would it be?
    3. What online site/resource/person do you learn from regularly?
  7. What’s next for you, Jenny? What are you working on that you’d like to share?

Resources

As a result of our conversation, here is what we are thinking about:

  • What might be the value of internship learning in your environment?

Episode 038 – Mesilla Valley Leadership Academy Interview with Dr. Toni Hull

In this episode we are speaking with Dr. Toni Hull, principal of Mesilla Valley Leadership Academy (MVLA) in New Mexico.

In our conversation, we learn that MVLA is unlike traditional middle schools, providing a unique project-based learning approach which allows students to produce real-world products and presentations that demonstrate their knowledge and proficiency. Each project is based on a monthly theme, which is developed by the teachers and school administration. MVLA is a school that starts with the learner!

As a restful of the conversation we are asking these questions:

  1. What learner-centered aspects of Mesilla Valley Leadership Academy are most intriguing to you?
  2. WHAT MIGHT BE in your learning environment if you start with the learner?

Resources:

 

 

Learner-centered leaders fearlessly embrace the work of transformation

In Episode 37, we revisit One Stone in Boise, Idaho to learn from Neva Geisler, Opportunity Wrangler, and two learners – Kylie Caper and Bennett Huhn. You may recall that we spoke to members of the One Stone community previously in Episode 29. One Stone is a unique learning organization. It’s student-led and directed and focused on making students better leaders. The program empowers high school students to learn and practice skills through experiential service, innovative initiatives, social entrepreneurship and the radical reinvention of learning.

Key Competency

Learner-centered leaders fearlessly embrace the work of transformation. The coaches and learners at One Stone collaboratively design learning environments and expectations that represent a break from the system. They embrace what many in the realm of education would consider innovations. And in a manner that is designed to disrupt the system driven by the mission of helping students become better leaders and the world a better place.

Takeaways

  • One Stone is driven by a mission – a mission to make students better leaders and the world a better place.
  • There is a significant emphasis on agency and student ownership. In a school-centered environment, students may be involved in service projects organized by adults. Students just need to “show up.” At One Stone, students demonstrate agency in participating in student-led and directed projects they are passionate about. In order to create the conditions that connect learning to student passions, the culture has to help learners find their passion. To do that, they start with the learner first!
  • One Stone is led by a board – 2/3 students; 1/3 adults. Learners really do have a voice in the organization!
  • Teachers are known as coaches and have a role different from the traditional teacher. Bennett shared, “If you’re in a bowling alley, and we’re the bowling ball, then the coaches are the bumpers on the side that are really kind of just guiding you towards your goal.”
  • The focus at One Stone is on growing the learners as people. This is different than in the traditional school-centered paradigm that might be focused on, according to Kylie, “getting good grades and getting that perfect test score. But here at One Stone, I’ve realized that it’s the experiences that I’m learning here and the knowledge and insight that I’m gaining that will help me be more successful in the future.” Neva followed up with the framework at One Stone: Knowledge, Skills, Creatively, Mind Set.
  • Learning experiences at One Stone are connected to learner passions. Bennett shared an example connecting physics to his passion for music. Neva spoke about the One Stone makerspace, the Foundry, which provides opportunities for learners interested in doing work with their hands.
  • One structure in place at One Stone that fosters and recognizes student passion is Winter Exploration. This is a week-long deep dive into one thing students are passionate about.
  • Neva shared her thoughts on leadership. Leaders must be vulnerable. “We talk a lot here about vulnerability, and vulnerability can be tough. But when you are vulnerable within your community, that really opens up avenues for creativity and this culture of failing forward. We are all encouraged to show up as our real, authentic selves. Whatever that may look like. You’re supported here in that, and we are here to help each other grow.” Empathy is also key to Neva. “I think from the coach perspective, you really need to believe in the power of students, and we do here at One Stone. We believe that learners are capable of extraordinary things when they find their voice and they’re empowered to use it.” Kylie and Bennett reiterated the emphasis on the power of student voice.
  • One Stone has an advisory model where students are encouraged and supported to check in and set goals.
  • The One Stone community are committed to being “fearless, embracing the work. It’s not easy to disrupt the system, but that is what we are here to do.”

Connections to Practice

  • Our high school students are provided some open-walled, personalized opportunities through our internship program.
  • We have advisory models in our high school and middle school. What are the successes and challenges of these learning experiences? How could these experiences be developed further so learners are setting goals and tracking progress?
  • We offer many clubs and activities at all levels. This summer we added some workshops – Fly a Drone, Etc – for our learners. But, how do we do more.  Could we have a Winter Exploration session? What would that look like?

Questions Based on Our Practice

  • How can we take our high school internship program to the next level by releasing the agency of our learners to find the projects and work they are most passionate about?
  • How can we get more students involved in decision making?
  • Do we talk to learners (and adults) about how to own their own learning – how to shift that mindset?
  • In what ways do we start with the learners first? In what ways can we improve?
  • Do we believe in the power of students (and the adults in the system) – that they are capable of extraordinary things when they find their voice and are empowered to use it?
  • How do we create more opportunities to connect students with projects in the community?
  • What are the barriers that constrain us from disrupting the system? What does our community want to disrupt?
  • As leaders across the organization, are we fearlessly doing this work? Are we making ourselves vulnerable? How do we know?

Next Steps for Us

  • Reflect upon the ways we act that start with the learner and the ways we start with the system.
  • Consider the idea of a winter exploration session. What are the possibilities? Constraints? If not winter, could it be summer?

Episode 037 – One Stone – Interview with Neva Geisler, Kylie Casper and Bennett Huhn

Today we are learning with an innovative school – One Stone.  You may remember a previous podcast – Episode 29 – focused on the learning and leadership at One Stone. One Stone is a student-led and directed nonprofit that makes students better leaders. The program empowers high school students to learn and practice skills through experiential service, innovative initiatives, social entrepreneurship, and the radical reinvention of learning.

In this conversation we learn how One Stone creates the conditions for learners to connect to passion and the kinds of learner-driven experiences available at One Stone.

As a result of our conversation with Neva, Kylie and Bennett, we are thinking about the following questions:

  1. How are you releasing the passions of your learners?
  2. WHAT MIGHT BE if we created the conditions for learners to co-design relevant, contextualized learning opportunities?

Resources

Learner-centered leaders approach work with learners using an assets model

In Episode 36, we visited with the Founder/Executive Director and a learner from an innovative learning environment in Bethel, CT – Workspace, a maker and co-working space designed to help families implement education their way in a vibrant learning environment. Families choose and co-create what their children need in this private school environment. The learning environment is a place where parents can teach, bring in teachers and experts, or choose from a database of tutors and teachers, online classes, and curriculums, as well as a smorgasbord of classes that appeal to all kinds of learners.

Key Competency

Learner-centered leaders approach work with learners using an assets model. They believe all learners have passions, interests and curiosities. Effective learning environments build upon these.

Takeaways

  • Catherine Fraise, the Founder and Executive Director of Workspace has brought to life an audacious vision for learning: Google-like-high-tech spaces and feel, parental and family engagement and involvement, high levels of learner agency, support resources to help parents co-design powerful learning opportunities with their children.
  • The Workspace environment provides learners with the opportunity to explore their curiosities. “I feel as though Workspace has given me the option to try things and really tell me where my curiosity will lead me, so that my curiosity takes me through the world.”
  • The Workspace learning environment is designed to provide learners with options. For example, Raphael, the learner on the podcast, spoke about the Socrates room. “I think that was really a powerful moment for me when I realized the space was giving me a toolbox and not a piece of paper that told me, ‘These are all the things that you’re going to do.’ It wasn’t a checklist. It was options.”
  • Learner-centered leaders need to be great listeners and observers if they want to create the ideal environment for personalization.
  • Learner-centered leaders understand that age and quality of ideas do not necessarily go hand-in-hand. They respect everyone for his/her ideas. Young and old are co-learners.
  • Learners have opinions. They have power. They can be heard. Learner-centered leaders encourage that. Raphael shared, ” As long as that is encouraged, speak out whatever it is that you’re thinking, and dream as big as possible.”

Connections to Practice

  • Workspace has a high level of family engagement. While our families are not engaged at a level we may want, conversations with parents and board members indicate a level of support for our learner-centered vision.

Questions Based on Our Practice

  • Do we operate from an asset model? Under what circumstances do we drift?
  • While Workspace is a private school with different constraints than traditional public schools? What elements of Workspace could transfer to public schools/our schools? What constraints of the public school system (policy, funding, etc.) are we not yet pushing on hard enough to realize an audacious vision for learning?
  • As we move toward our vision of a competent learning, how will we ensure the vision is available to all learners regardless of how well they read, how much money their family has, the language they speak or what they believe in?
  • It would appear that Workspace provides significant room for families to determine what learners need to know and be able to do. Where does the role of community fit into the vision for learning? What other “communities” shall we engage in our work as we strive to develop competent learners? What happens when the members of various communities do not accept the invite to be involved?
  • How are we getting to know our learners – young and old – so we are able to design environment conducive to personalization?
  • What areas could we be more “learner-centered”? For example, looking at our goals, how can families and learners intersect with the work, improving the outcome? What’s appropriate?

Next Steps for Us

  • As part of our goals this year, draft an advocacy/policy white paper on learner-centered education in the context of a rapidly changing future to share with policymakers as appropriate.
  • More intentionally include conversations about learning space design in task redesign activities this year.
  • Design creative ways of engaging families in the learning process. How do we go beyond the custodial role of education in the current era?
  • Uncover areas in our goals where we could be more learner-centered.

Episode 036 – Workspace – Interview with Catherine Fraise and Raphael Lipp

In Episode 36, we learn about Workspace, a unique learning environment in which families co-create learning.  Workspace is a maker and co-working space designed to help families implement education their way, in a vibrant learning community. 

In this conversation, we hear from Catherine Fraise, Founder and Executive Director of Workspace, and Raphael Lipp, a learner. We learn about Workspaces uniquely designed physical learning space, the role of community and family and education and what is possible when adult learners approach young learners with an asset model.

As a result of our conversation, here is what we are thinking about:

  • What learner-centered aspects of Workspace are most intriguing to you?
  • What did you learn today that you can use to move your school or district toward a learner-centered environment?

Resources:

 

Bonus Episode 05 – Panel Reflection on Episodes 12-22 with Dr. Ulcca Joshi Hansen and Dr. Trace Pickering

In this special Bonus Episode, we are processing some of the ideas from our Episodes 12-22 – a sort of opportunity to rest along the way and think about the conversations we’ve had on the podcast. Our panel had a free form conversation to share takeaways and ask questions to better understand what it means to lead a learner-centered environment.

The episode’s panel had two guests:

Dr. Ulcca Joshi Hansen is the Associate Director of National Outreach and Community Building at Education Reimagined, where she is working to build an ecosystem of partners needed to ensure educators pioneering learner-centered learning are supported in their efforts. Ulcca is guided by the principle of promoting and supporting student-centered learning experiences that celebrate and maximize the unique potential of every child.

Dr. Trace Pickering is Executive Director of Iowa BIG and a member of the Education Reimagined team. Trace co-created Iowa BIG and is a lifetime educator and entrepreneur. Most recently he served as the Associate Superintendent for Innovation in the Cedar Rapids Community School District. You may recall Trace from Episode 5 featuring Iowa BIG.

As a result of this panel conversation, we hope you will think about these and other questions:

  1. What do the elements look like in different cultures?
  2. What are we letting go of in order to have the time and space for transformation?

Resources:

Learner-centered leaders help others uncover who they are as learners

In Episode 35, we return to Cajon Valley Union School District to hear more about the World of Work program from teacher, Melanie Brandt, and learners, Stuart Frank and Layna Berni. You may recall from Episode 24, we first learned about World of Work through our conversation on learner-centered education with superintendent, Dr. David Miyashiro and Ed Hidalgo.

Key Competency

Learner-centered leaders help others uncover who they are as learners. These leaders guide learners to understand who they are as people and how they might approach learning.

Takeaways

Cajon Valley developed the World of Work initiative to help every child learn about the world of work through the discovery of his/her individual interests, strengths, and values. The learning process ensures every child knows there is a place for him/her in the world of work. The teachers and learners work together to connect what is happening in the classroom to the world of work. Teachers support learners as they better understand the “why” behind the work in order to better understand what is possible in the future in the work world.

In this initiative the teacher’s role has shifted. Just like a learning support teacher implements an IEP for each special education student, the teacher in the program implements a personalized plan for each learner.

Students complete the RIASEC and learn more about their interests and strengths.

As a result of learning what each learner’s unique interests/strengths are, the teacher is able to design a more learner-centered, individualized project. This year’s fIrst career exploration was “theme park.” In science, the students learned about energy (connected to NGSS standards) and transformed themselves into theme park engineers. Students then chose how to communicate their content knowledge as a group. Students designed a roller coaster and used different platforms (such as scratch program, Google Slides, hand-drawn blue prints, Google Draw, etc.) to pitch their design to a theme park company. The authentic audience and cross-curricular connections made the work relevant and meaningful.

How do the learners see learning differently in the World of Work? The learners shared they will learn about 48 different jobs over the course of their education in Cajon Valley. Stuart shared he has been exposed to many ideas, and there is really no right or wrong direction to go. Layna indicated she leads with social, enterprising, and artistic according to her RIASEC.

Stuart was on working on game designer when we chatted, and the process helped him uncover a more realistic view of the career – what he is going to do, and how he will like it. Now he wants to be a blade smith.  He connected his RIASEC traits – drawing/artist, starting a shop/enterprising, etc. to the career he wants to pursue.

Layna indicated she really wanted to be a veterinarian prior to the World of Work experience. Now, she believes she wants to be a park naturalist. Through a field trip and experiences with experts, she realized the work would be more closely aligned to her strengths.  Helping students dig deeper into the knowledge, skills, and dispositions of careers helps them make educated decisions about their potential career paths.

While there have been many successes, the teachers/leaders also experienced challenges. Because World of work is a recent initiative, there were unknowns, and at times that was frightening. Once teachers are reaching more learners’ interests/strengths, learner engagement has increased.

Roles for teachers and learners shifted in which the teacher became the supervisor, and the learners are supervisors/managers of their teams. Students become empowered, and they develop ideas beyond what the teacher may have initially considered. Students are so engaged that they want to continue this work during their “free time.” They want to keep learning, and this is evidenced by low absenteeism and even Stuart’s interest in taking summer school.

Through the World of Work, parents are getting involved and offering resources, and Melanie attributes this to the learners’ excitement and passion for learning. Building the home school connection has been a valuable result also as everyone benefits from these deeper connections.

Learners have agency over their work, and they are leveraging the agency to develop leadership skills – one being idea generation. Given a certain set of instructions, students can proffer other ideas. Students are always encouraged to create new ideas.

How do you make this happen in your district? In order to create this opportunity for students, it really takes the desires of teachers because they are the ones to give the frameowrk color and bring it to life for students. Developing bonds and strong relationships with stakeholders across the organization (including the early adopters and resistors) can help move the organization forward. Helping everyone understand the why and see the value in the experience is critical. Connecting teachers with other teachers can be a powerful learning experience and help them understand how they are a critical piece in this learning.  As a result, some teachers are finding a new way to bring the content to life, a renewed energy for the profession. Relationship-building, sharing/re-sharing the why, developing an understanding of the common message across the layers, and providing coaching/support is critical in implementing this new vision/approach to career education.

Melanie shared how important it is to empower the kids to be part of the process. In one example, students created a virtual tour of a state or national park. They were going to present at an upcoming visit. While Melanie was sharing what they were going to do, she stopped herself and invited the students to share ideas instead of directing students to complete specific tasks. As a result, the students designed and presented an amazing simulation to the distinguished visitors in the school. This empowerment developed confidence in the students, and they are not afraid to share their ideas.

Melanie reflects after 15 years of teaching she has learned to put more on the kids because “they’ve got it!”

When asked what suggestions the learners have for other learners engaging in this type of exciting learning, the students shared… “Go on.. Don’t look back. Try as hard as you can and never quit. Think positive, be yourself, don’t quit, keep on working and you will finally get it done!”

Connections to Practice

  • These learners are enthusiastic about their work. While we see some enthusiasm in our learners, is this the norm? Where in our schools are our students enthusiastic about learning? Where are they less enthusiastic?
  • We have been talking about voice and choice. In Melanie’s example, she stopped herself and invited the students to share their own ideas. Do we release control to our learners?

Questions Based on Our Practice

  • What exposure to computer science concepts and principles do our learners experience throughout their educational careers?
  • Are our teachers frightened to try something new? How do we honor their concerns and alleviate the fear?
  • How do our limited career paths impact our own approach to career awareness? What are those opportunities that will be available for our learners? How do we help others understand this?

Next Steps for Us

  • Engage teachers in conversations about risk-taking.
  • Talk with our learners about their experiences. If they were designing their own experienceships, what might they look like?
  • Consider what experienceships are available to us, and how our community members can support this work.